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Story Artists sought for animated short film

Currently seeking strong story and concepts artists to help get a proposal together for a short animation scheme called Frameworks (Ireland).

We’re Looking for colour storyboards and sample ‘screen shots’ to compliment the script that is an adaptation of an award winning short story.

There is a potential for a small payment pending the success of the application and some work in the studio during production.

If interested please get in touch

Robert

seven_tower@hotmail.com

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http://www.bobkellystudio.com/

I will give you a potential small amount of work. Sounds good? 

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Yian 2012

Yian any help is appreciated. Deadline is coming up in 2 weeks and there's a lot of work to get this together. I'd love some ideas in the style this film should go. It would be easy to say computer generated and it would work but I really think a very styalised approach would compliment the script. You have certain strong points for this kind of thing in terms of concept or storyboarding?

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http://www.bobkellystudio.com/

I shouldn't speak for Yian but in light of this discussion, I suspect he was being sarcastic...

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www.charlotteahlgren.com
IFX Gallery
Elfwood Gallery

I never thought sarcasm could translate so well over the internet but Yian's actually managed it and I'm inclined to agree with Voluspa. Why you think you can get free work off artists, nevermind new ones but professional is beyond me, your over the top bold and badly written 'job' posting sets off my scam detector and also makes me feel like I've gotten high looking at my computer screen and given I've just taken some lemsip capsules to help with a stupid cold I've caught over the weekend that might very well be the case. Sorry if the tone seems harsh for some people but as someone who's been screwed over by these people who promise the world to you and then just go "Well its not our fault its yours" when you find out what they have given you is completely worthless I'm feeling very unsympathetic to companies who think they can pull this kind of thing so I'm calling you out on your bullshit. 

This is how you do a job application for an artist, it's quite simple really, you ask them to submit a portfolio of their best work without stealing it, if it's not the kind of quality or style you are looking for you move on, if it is, you hire them for a real salary and negotiate a proper contract and pay them actual money once the contract is completed based on the terms you both agreed. Oh and actually contacting the person to tell them they haven't succeeded with their application is a good sign of professionalism and politeness as well as it shows you aren't dicking them about.

Oh dear. Read into what you like. I'm looking for someone to help get a proposal together for a short animation scheme run in Ireland. The scheme supports up to 5 films per year at a budget of around 50k each. One being the oscar nominated granny O grimms sleeping beauty.

 Now maybe I'm a sucker for missing out on the sarcasm - all ye hiding behind your computers but this is a genuine call for support in getting the proposal together as the standards are set to the highest and my colour work and concept work is weak..(view website below)

Again anyone who suppostrs the film will recieve a payment if the proposal is successful. Thats the chance we've to take in submitting work for commissions. Now any futher smart remarks - and I'll send you to the back of the class

 

Rob

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http://www.bobkellystudio.com/

Dundaglan:

...will recieve a payment if the proposal is successful...

What if the proposal is not successful, then does that mean I would have worked for nothing? That is the chance YOU have to take, not anyone else. If you can't come up with the money up front, then don't expect anyone doing anything for you.  

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Yian 2012

If the proposal is unsucessful then there wont be a budget to work from so unfortunatally no payment. Again its the chance we got to take. But in saying that the script is very strong and thats the first thing the readers will be looking at. Second will be the production team and thrid the visual approach. This is where the story art comes in...

 Link to the scheme in all its glory for the begrudgers:  http://www.irishfilmboard.ie/funding_programmes/Frameworks/65

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http://www.bobkellystudio.com/

Oh seriously, at least one person here needs to calm down. If someone is up front and open about it being a "maybe project" and saying you MIGHT get paid, you can't possibly consider it a scam. The discussion I referred to was on how people either think artists just pick up their work through a magic hat and therefor can charge very little for each piece (since they have unlimited supply) or that artists apparently doesn't deserve the same pay as others. But for a project like this, I'd say it's more a question of whether you want to get involved. Admittedly it's hard to judge from the posted materials, so I doubt any pro's would bite, but for a student or an amateur with time on their hands, who's willing to get the experience and don't care for the cash - I'd say it's your choice, jump in if you wish. After all, nobody said this would be a paid job so I fail to see how anyone could be fooled. Perhaps someone out here would actually do it for fun? I don't think it's wrong of someone to ask, what's wrong is when it's generally expected (as discussed in the other thread...)

EDIT: actually JOe (below post) has a good point. But I still think that it's OK to ask if anyone wants to come aboard and take the risk (shame on them if they do and then feel cheated).

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www.charlotteahlgren.com
IFX Gallery
Elfwood Gallery

Dundaglan:

Again anyone who suppostrs the film will recieve a payment if the proposal is successful. Thats the chance we've to take in submitting work for commissions.

Rob,

That may be the chance that you take but if you can't submit a proposal without artwork then you're fecked. You need to employ an artist therefore you're subcontracting. This is not a case of asking a friend to get on board. Are you only going to pay the stationers for your paper/pens/paperclips IF the proposal is accepted? I understand fully that you may be unable to pay much but a token payment after artwork delivery shows good will. Borrow the money. Artists need to eat too.

Amen Voluspa.

I'm not looking fro drew struzan here. Just folks who would have the time and talent to support the proposal. We were all students once looking to network

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http://www.bobkellystudio.com/

Lethn:

as someone who's been screwed over by these people who promise the world to you

When was this? As far as I'm aware, you've never done any remotely resembling professional work. If you're ranting on about something unrelated, then you should really learn to shut up when the grown ups are talking about something you have no knowledge or experience of.

Which would be pretty much everything.

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Rob, I have a question which I'm going to ask. Not to be rude, but because I think it's both important and relevant to the situation.

On your website it says: "we've a pool of talented traditional artists to draw from - we also love to use digital drawing and painting tools. Sketchbook Pro and Photoshop help give our storyboards a polished look for production."

Are these people who you either employ, or have an established relationship with, working on the project? I just wonder why you would be seeking new artists, when you have a pool of talent you already trust and could use.

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Em... these folks would be freelancers who've been working in animation and gaming industry for years. Guys who are currently working with brownbag and havok etc. I've 2 weeks to get this together and they are not around to give me a dig out

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http://www.bobkellystudio.com/

Might be useful to give an indication of what a "small payment" amounts to should the proposal be accepted. If you're absolutely stoney broke and can't offer something like £100 for two weeks' work then more information about possible rewards might make it more attractive. Students have to eat too.

Maybe advertise at a storyboard website?