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Why I don't ever go on Gaia

Last post 10-26-2009, 4:02 AM by Pandaren117. 9 replies.
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  •  10-23-2009, 6:25 PM 251432

    Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    Apparently, I draw like a seven year old.

    http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/art-discussion/loz-girls-art/t.55344313_1/

    I'm laughing too much to be angry right now, but I feel a bit insulted.

    I thank the poor girl who posted the original comment. I have no idea who it was.But thank you, even though it backfired on you.

    Though, do I really draw/sketch like a seven old? Do I really have 'no understanding of anatomy,no handle on actual colour' etc? Am I really 'weak in all areas?' I don't think I am that bad. Yes, I still need to work A LOT on my anatomy, yes, I need to work  lot on my proportion, but I am still only 13, I am still learning, it's not like I'm probably going to take art seriously as a career anyway.  I worry too much and got through art blocks that last weeks.

    Apparently, I also have zero drawing talent (apparently, they're just like an average kids drawing) and they only look slightly good because I 'overuse' textures.



    Constructive criticism is one thing, but saying those things on a site I barely ever visit, saying things that are bad about my art behind my back with no intention of ever saying them to my face, is outrightly mean.

    I am probably over reacting, yes. I second guess things and I am paranoid, I know.

     


    http://loz-girl.deviantart.com/
  •  10-23-2009, 7:56 PM 251454 in reply to 251432

    Re: Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    I took a look in your dev. art gallery and in your portfolio here at IFX...And no, you don´t draw like a seven-year old, ( unless that would be an extremly talented seven-year old...)

    I guess somebody is just jelaous on you out there. Wink


    raimo
  •  10-23-2009, 9:56 PM 251468 in reply to 251432

    Re: Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    I think some people just get all prickly when someone else is getting praise and maybe they feel they deserve it more... Or something.

    I looked at your deviantart gallery and I like your style. You have a wonderful use of colours and a nice and relaxed way of sketching your pictures. Anatomy might need a bit of work, but I think most of us will have to admit to that problem from time to time...

    When I was little (Can't recall the age but hope you won't mind if I - at 35 - call 13 little) I read somewhere that you CAN'T produce "perfect" art until you're at least 16. Something about the brain's development I guess. At the time I interpreted it as "I will be an expert at 16" and was rather disappointed to find that that wasn't true :P (But these days I hope I will still improve loads!)

    So just keep painting. Crits and tips are good but when someone totally thrashes what you do, you shouldn't take them seriously. Nobody is completely perfect - but nobody is totally bad either, so you'll know they're exaggerating if they say you are.

  •  10-23-2009, 10:54 PM 251475 in reply to 251432

    Re: Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    Hey skepsie, I like you art, and I like the colors and the emotional quality they express. Technically speaking, however, I do think that person had a point. Look at what theannacracker said later:

    "She doesn't yet have an understanding of anatomy, proportion, her values aren't there, she hasn't quite gotten a handle on actual color (so her colors are very fanciful, but they aren't exactly what is needed to build a foundation in color theory) She's a beginning artist, she is weak in all areas."

    So, I would work more on the anatomy and values. The original comment was a little too harsh since you definitely isn't weak in "all areas." But the nature of the criticism is, you must take what you need from it and never let it become personal. So, think of this as a reminder that your anatomy and values could be improved, and ignore the parts that seemed to be insults and move on.

     

  •  10-23-2009, 11:04 PM 251480 in reply to 251475

    Re: Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    Yes, I agree with you- I know I need to work on my anatomy and proportion. I just didn't like how she just threw in a insult along with it, it just seemed a bit... immature.

     

    But yeah, I need to learn how to take more criticism and learn from it. 


    http://loz-girl.deviantart.com/
  •  10-23-2009, 11:12 PM 251482 in reply to 251480

    Re: Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    skepsie:

    I just didn't like how she just threw in a insult along with it, it just seemed a bit... immature.

    Most people are like that. You need to get used to it.

  •  10-24-2009, 2:33 PM 251595 in reply to 251480

    Re: Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    skepsie:

    Yes, I agree with you- I know I need to work on my anatomy and proportion. I just didn't like how she just threw in a insult along with it, it just seemed a bit... immature.

    But yeah, I need to learn how to take more criticism and learn from it. 

    i think alot of people need to learn how to give crits to someone who is learning. i belive in the good/bad sandwich i try and keep things positive even with critism.  if you want to be an illustrator though you will need to grow a thick skin, publishers, art directors etc. tend not to tell you whats good about it and what they like and only tell you what needs changeing (i talk to an art director on DA and get alot of helpful hints and tips from him) a tough skin is recommended and remeber there comments arnt aimed at you there aimmed at the art work.  ammetures dont tend to get theres a diffrence from giveing crit and throwing insults around, jut ignore the insult and take what you think can be used to help you improve from them.

    if you want to work on your anatomy go get an anatomy book and study, practice drawing from stock and do gesture drawings from life. anatomy will come, i have been drawing people for a long time and i still screw up with anatomy, hence why i practice it ^^ keep posting, keep drawing and keep excepting advice that way you will improve. start a sketchbook thread here and put up your sketches of real people from stock and gesture drawing, the more feedback and practice you get the better you'll become :)

  •  10-24-2009, 3:19 PM 251618 in reply to 251595

    Re: Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    another good way is to just post your work in our wip section and let the forum members have at it. ; )  you'll get a lot of good feedback and no doubt improve rather quickly. just remember you need to take the good comments with the bad ones.





    "Live life like a fantasy. Reality is only in your mind!" - Fabledgoat
  •  10-26-2009, 1:36 AM 251884 in reply to 251618

    Re: Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    I'm sorry....I guess I missed the insult, was it later in the thread? I have to admit I don't like having to go through pages and pages to find a comment someone was mulling over.
    Wizard's First Rule
  •  10-26-2009, 4:02 AM 251897 in reply to 251884

    Re: Why I don't ever go on Gaia

    Regardless of any more of the more caustic comments, I think I would like to take this from a personal style and purpose of view.

    I like your style, it has this nice watercolor wash feel, makes it feel very illustrated and kind of likea  whimsical feel.  People may say that you're proportions and handle on anatomy are off, but I think that the purpose of the work is somewhat of a alibi regarding how the art is.  Its not bad, but that's subjective to each person.

     

    On that note, if there's anything i learned from Character Design class, just keeps things proportional, whatever the head size ends up to be.

     


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