I'm posting this to illustrate something that came up in my sketchbook thread.

robotnel asked what program I use and I replied "mostly Photoshop. Sometimes a bit of Painter at the end". That probably didn't really explain it properly, so I thought I'd show what I do.

Basically, I do everything in Photoshop first, and then sometimes use Painter for little tweaks and smoothing out strokes.

Here's a before and after example:

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That's even more interesting than it was when you said it in the other thread. It's pretty much the same thing I was using Painter for when I first began to use it in conjunction with Photoshop. I've found myself using Painter more and more over the past few months for the whole thing. It's pretty much dependant on my mood now as to which one I use, although Photoshop wins hands down for any correction/manipulation work.

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I should really take the time to get to grips with Painter. The only version I have of it, though, is Painter Classic that came with my Wacom (which is about 8 years old).

I think I felt more comfortable with Photoshop because I'd been using it for years in a design capacity before I started painting with it - so I knew what it could do and didn't have the learning curve of a new program.

Bottom line - laziness.

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I've thought about using Painter also but have ended up joining the lazy club too.

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I am just th opposite. I cousl afford Painter before photoshop. I can use ps sometimes but I prefer painter even with its limitations. I still start everything as a psd though. Incase i need to make adjustments in PS.

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SERIOUSLY! Don't talk on my backstroke!

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robotnel asked what program I use and I replied "mostly Photoshop. Sometimes a bit of Painter at the end". That probably didn't really explain it properly, so I thought I'd show what I do.

Thanks!  This helps quite a bit, especially seeing the different kinds of brushstrokes you use.
 

Slackers. I had Painter Classic with my Tablet. Unfortunately it was never particularly stable (even by Painter standards) so I never made much use of it. When I got myself a widescreen monitor it only wanted to let me paint on one side of the screen which made it completely useless.

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I started with Photoshop and I’m very comfortable using the program. I did not start using painter until later and I'm still not really functional in the program. Sometimes I go back and fourth between Photoshop and Painter because I know that I can get a certain look faster from the other program. I watch a lot of Gnomon DVDs on how to use painter, one of my favorites is the Ryan Church DVDs on painter. He really does a good job of breaking down the program for you and I have picked up a lot of techniques on how to execute a painting from him, another good one is Puddnhead.

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I like the gnomon workshop dvd's too.  Ryan Church does do a good job of explaining workflow and some key techniques.  Buuut, I don't have painter, just PS, so I still have to 'translate' his techniques if I were to use them. 

That is interesting. I used to use photoshop but since I've gotten Painter I've been using it for the bulk of my images and then going into Photoshop for post work. I usually create the image, and then adjust levels, brightness, and a slew of layer masks to spice areas up, etc. but yah, bulk of mine are done in painter.

I believe it's the Ryan Church gnomon workshop that I got with Painter X when I bought it. Though I haven't made it through the whole thing, the stuff I watched gave me a great start.  

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Sounds like you need a ROAD TRIP! To one of Gnomon’s workshops, two days of I get it now and why didn't I think of that. You should go when Gnomon holds the next one. I started going when they first started and it got me on the path of working the programs, sometimes Internet tutorials can isolate your thinking.

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