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  •  08-13-2011, 8:57 PM 357120 in reply to 357107

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Thanks Yian, you're right, the mouth was basically the only bit I didn't work on earlier today :P

    Riddick 

    Something still seems off about his mouth. It seems just too much, somehow. I can't put my finger on it. I could be wrong, but I'm not calling it finished until I decide. I also just spotted a small thing I missed, I'll go and do that before I forget about it.



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  •  08-13-2011, 11:15 PM 357134 in reply to 357120

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    I am no expert on getting likeness of a person, and I think this is essential for you since this piece basically is doing a portrait of Riddick. But I'm sure others with far more experience on likeness, such as em..., will be able to point you to the right direction. Maybe you should PM him for some tips.

    Yian 2012
  •  08-14-2011, 12:04 AM 357136 in reply to 357134

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    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    As if by magic...

    I think it's a reasonable likeness, but I'm of the opinion that a portrait should look more like the person than the person does, which requires some slight exaggeration, but what you've done is nudge the features towards an average face, which makes it look less like him than he does.

    I've gone into more depth on the subject just a few days ago in this thread - http://community.imaginefx.com/forums/thread/356880.aspx

    This kind of also brings me to something I've been meaning to say to you. Recently you've been making some big improvements in your art, but I think you seriously need to think about faces more. It seems to me that you've gotten into a routine, when drawing characters from your imagination, of using stock features, and the result is a samey-ness in your characters' faces (male or female) - the same kind of eye, nose, mouth, and jaw shapes crop up again and again, in heads which have practically identical proportions. Other than hairstyles, they are all pretty much interchangeable.

    I'd like to see you try and get some more variety into your faces, and this thread is the perfect place to try it. One technique is to "cast" an actor, or a combination of two or three, in the role, and distill the essence of their features into your style. It doesn't have to be a likeness (that can actually be distracting in a comic) but their "type". And don't be afraid to push the differences.

    To give some examples from real comics: Gil Kane based Hal Jordan (Green Lantern) on Paul Newman; Brian Bolland based Psi Judge Anderson on Debbie Harry; Gene Colan based his Dracula on Jack Palance. None of these look exactly like the inspiration, but they are of an ilk.

    So, who would be the ideal choice to play Mercy?


  •  08-14-2011, 1:15 AM 357139 in reply to 357136

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Thanks guys. I have noticed that I have trouble coming up with many different faces (though I'm pretty sure I'm not the biggest offender out there), but it's true that I've never really done anything about it. I have thought a bit about who might play my characters though, or at least who kinda looks like I want them to look. For Mercy, I'm thinking Carla Gugino with a little bit of Susan Ward. Looking at those pics actually, it'd be more like Carla but just with some sharper features.

    As for the other characters I draw often, Leo I've thought about being kinda between Gerard Way and Tom Cruise, and I've come round to the idea that Jennifer looks a little like Emma Watson.

    This has also served to remind me that I don't draw my less important characters anything like enough, though I'm sure I've cast some of them at one point or another. There's at least one I want to base on an actual friend of mine as well.

    Anyway, since no-one's raised any specific crits on Riddick, and I'm feeling better about his lips now (just kind of got used to them), I'm calling it done.

    Riddick finished 



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  •  08-16-2011, 9:08 PM 357392 in reply to 357139

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Right, break over, back to Mercy. I think I'm done with this stage, going to move on the graphics and text next, and/or get on with the suit version.

    Mercy 



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  •  08-21-2011, 12:01 PM 357829 in reply to 357392

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Errr, the image host has made my images low quality again. Why do they torture me so?

    Anyway, I've been procrastinating, and I don't want to allow that really. Here's some more Mercy, possibly finished. There's probably something I can do to make it look more like a comic book cover.

     



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  •  08-21-2011, 12:35 PM 357832 in reply to 357829

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Hey Philby, I think with this image you have come a long way. I don't feel the need to nag about gestures and stiffness, like usual :) And I think her face has attitude and more believability than we're used to.

    Not much I'd crit because I don't read comics, but maybe look at some of your fave ones - I think possibly what is missing a bit is that "sheen" and ooh shiney wow factor you get with commercial stuff. Could be to do with some simple layer effects for some highlights and slight colour variations here and there. 

    Keep up the good work!


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  •  08-21-2011, 12:51 PM 357837 in reply to 357832

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Thanks Alex :) I'm glad you don't find her pose stiff, I do feel like I'm starting to get it. I think I probably could have done better on her face though.


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  •  08-21-2011, 9:54 PM 357869 in reply to 357837

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Alrighty, decided to crack on with the Jackie Brown tribute suit version of this.

    Mercy 

    EDIT - I remembered someone else I've used as a ref for Mercy in the past (though mainly for the hair more than for the likeness, but there is a resemblance). Anyone remember Tiffany Amber Thiessen off of the nineties? And where was this picture back when I was doing Dressed to Kill?



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  •  08-22-2011, 8:27 PM 357965 in reply to 357869

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    I think I'm done with these, but as usual I'll leave off calling them finished for a bit in case I spot or think of something I've missed, or if anyone has any last-minute suggestions.

    Overdose cover AOverdose cover B



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  •  08-23-2011, 9:37 PM 358086 in reply to 357965

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Okay, 24 hours with no crits, I'm calling these finished. Here's the links (though the only difference is that I added the vents on the muzzle brakes on the suit version's guns, which I forgot earlier).

    Battle Dress Uniform

    Jackie Brown Tribute



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  •  08-23-2011, 11:31 PM 358110 in reply to 358086

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Good job philby. I hope you get your face thing worked out in your future works.

    Yian 2012
  •  08-23-2011, 11:44 PM 358114 in reply to 358110

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Thanks, but at the risk of sounding like a thicko, what face thing? Do you mean when I said I think I could have done better on her face?


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  •  08-24-2011, 12:14 AM 358115 in reply to 358114

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Yeah, and also about what em... has mentioned before.

    Yian 2012
  •  08-24-2011, 9:04 AM 358130 in reply to 358115

    Re: Philby's WIP thread

    Oh yeah. I'll try not to forget... again :P


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