how the hell do you do it. i know about 123 point perspective, but how do you get it to work if your doing a birds eyeview of a city??

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It's just three point perspective with the vertical vanishing point close to the base of the objects you are drawing. It would help if you had Manga Studio's excellent perspective rulers but it's easy enough making your own in Photoshop, or whatever. Personally I'd think about using Google Sketchup as a guide.

so its basical, a high horizon line and individul vertical vanishing points?? 

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A high horizon, yes, but there will only be three vanishing points - two on the horizon and one well below it. Did you look at the Manga Studio link? It has a diagram.

Edit: Also, these Photoshop custom shapes from K-Bot could be very useful. http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132023

yeah, i think i owned that book..

Still can't get it to work for a birds eye view... my be birds eye was the wrong phraise, i'm talking about more of an arial shot

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jonnymarvel:

Still can't get it to work for a birds eye view... my be birds eye was the wrong phraise, i'm talking about more of an arial shot

Can't get more aerial than this, you are right above the vanishing point. I'm not sure I'm following you now. Can you post a diagram?

I think i've got it now, hopefully lol. i'll post my wip tomarrow on TCR3 and link it on hear. Thanks joe again you've been a great help.... even if we didn't understand each other ,

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Joe, do you know if Manga Studio Debut has the rulers you mentioned?

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I'm not Joe, but I can tell you it doesn't. Only the EX version has the perspective: http://my.smithmicro.com/win/mangaex/index.html

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Cheers Banj. I should've noticed that in the more info tab on their site. Would've been a nice tool for $40. No such luck.

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Think i got it, i lose it a bit round the bottom but it looks well...i think

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