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Basic Pointers for a complete beginner?

Last post 10-09-2008, 4:03 AM by freiheit. 6 replies.
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  •  09-11-2008, 3:13 PM 133601

    Basic Pointers for a complete beginner?

    Hi there this is my first post on these forums.

    Having seen this magazine on a shelf it has somewhat inspired me to delve into the world of digital illustration, i have always had an interest in the genre, i have a few books, one authored by Chris Foss, which i love. I also love a bit of RPG and fantasy genre too. I would to able to create my own conceptual/diorama style drawings.

    I have a pretty good knowledge of programs like Photoshop and illustrator id say i was of intermediate level knowledge wise. I have more of a graphic design/typographical back round though so digital painting etc, is new to me.

     Soo here goes:

    What is a good resource/book/site which would contain complete basics of digital drawings etc? also which mediums are commonly favoured, is mixed media essential or could i achieve good results with purely digital input?

     also, what software/hardware setup would you advise i use to get started?, money is not really an issue.

    I appreciate the answers may be varied to my questions but just any advice would be great! also apologies if my questions are stupid.

     

    thanks for reading!

  •  09-11-2008, 4:14 PM 133615 in reply to 133601

    Re: Basic Pointers for a complete beginner?

    If you already have good knowladge of photoshop I'd say stick with that.

    Then just go for it and experiment because there is no right answer as to how to get started.

    If you are totally new to drawing and you really want a book on illustrating I'd say look for books by Loomis. If you find one in hard back it may be expensive to buy but if money is not a problem it would be well worth it. You can also find some PDFs around on the net otherwise (these books are not instructional on digital drawing but all the same if you dont have the basics digital or not you'll have trouble).

    Also if you dont have one already, get a wacom or if your cash stretches to it a cinique.


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  •  09-16-2008, 6:37 PM 134623 in reply to 133615

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    Re: Basic Pointers for a complete beginner?

    A really good digital art book is

    Bold Visions: A Digital Painting Bible (Paperback)

    by Gary Tonge (Author)
    it is really good becasue it covers alot of the basics and isn't very expensive plus u should always have your bible with you.

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  •  09-18-2008, 3:07 AM 134978 in reply to 133601

    Re: Basic Pointers for a complete beginner?

    If im not a few days too slow to offer input, i'd like to offer some.

    EQUIPMENT

    For anybody who is serious about digital illustration a drawing tablet is mandatory  (intuos2 or 3 are the popular choices). There are some psychos out there who draw and paint with a mouse, and even freakier people who do that and manage to produce absolutely amazing results like Skan Srisuwan cover artist of ImagineFX's 5th issue, however in reality, that kind of accomplishment with a mouse is a very rare talent, its exactly like trying to to draw and paint with a bar of soap.

    - The norm for painting programs are Corel Painter or Adobe Photoshop. I would advise against learning both corel and photoshop. When you are a beginner you tend to have little idea how artists manage to pull off all their sweet effects in their art so its best to stick with one program to learn how things get done before attempting to try learn things all over again in another program because the methods are usually different, even if only slightly. Yes these programs are inherently similar, but they really are different in so many ways. If you get a chance to try both, you should be able to make up your mind pretty quickly which of the two programs you would prefer to work in for the time being.

    SKILLS

    When it comes to drawing traditionally and drawing digitally (with a drawing tablet) the principles are inherently the same. If you can do one, you will be able to do the other without the need for external instruction.

     - If you want to learn how to draw traditionally there is a world of material out there to help get you started but I believe you're primarily concerned with wanting to start drawing digitally.

    - Im not a fan of books that just showcase flashy bits of art that other people produce because that is next to useless when you want to try to learn anything. Books like that just serve to provide motivation, inspiration and immersion in creating equivalent works of your own. So the books i'm recommending here are basically textbooks, not visual porn.

    - Okay, if youve never used a tablet before, there is a good and solid introductory book by Cher Threinen Pendarvis, called:

     "The Photoshop and Painter Artist Tablet Book: Creative Techniques in Digital Painting"

    - It sells for around 20-50$ depending on where you live in the world. I own a copy, its very useful for learning the basics of diving into digital drawing and painting for the first time, right from opening up your intuos graphics tablet for the first time and plugging it in, to learning about brush strokes to creating simple and more complex works of art through an array of various exercises.

    - The exercises she provides may or may not seem interesting to you, but you have to understand that shes trying to teach you a set of skills, not trying to get you interested in the subject matter of her art. 

    - The book alternates between explanations for both Photoshop and Corel Painter.

    - Cher threinen presents a basic elementary understanding of tablets, painting programs and drawing, I now recommend to you another introductory to intermediate level book that focuses a lot more on digital painting. Its by Don Seegmiller.

    "Digital Character Painting Using Photoshop CS3/CS2"

    - This book sells for about 30-85$ depending again on where you live, Amazon is selling it pretty cheap right now for only 30$ and believe me its an -excellent- book filled with a LOT of useful stuff. For the most part it covers the fundamentals of Character Design and basic skills such as learning about value, edges, color, texturing, blending and lighting, before then moving on to teach in-depth techniques with comprehensive step by step tutorials on painting specific things such as eyes, face, figures, clothing, hair, and assorted other things.

    Aside from what you can learn in a textbook or two like those, amazing resources such as ImagineFX! Big Smile will end up being the only things you need.

    Generally, all a person really needs to get themselves started in the world of digital art is to first see how other people do it, that way youll get an idea on how to approach digital art. However, at the end of the day, you WILL come to understand that there is only so much you can learn from another artist and from books, the only real way you will end up learning and becoming a unique and accomplished artist in your own right is through your own personal effort and experimentation. Learning how to paint your way, not somebody elses way.

    You'll probably be making a lot of crap before you''ll end up making good progress depending on your natural skillsets, the thing is to stay committed to getting better and above all make sure you're enjoying it. Who was it that said, "its not about the end result but the journey of creation we artists take in getting there"... painting is really satisfying stuff.

    Hope that helps! Smile

     PS: Other great books you may want to check out, however most if not all of these are about applying skills to particular genres, i.e., Fantasy. However the skilles learned are surely readily transferrable.

    1. Vanishing Point by Jason Cheeseman-Meyer
    2. The Fantasy Illustrators Technique Book by Gary A. Lippincott
    3. Anatomy for Fantasy Artists by Glen Fabry
    4. Fantasy Workshop: A Practical Guide by Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell
    5. Digital Fantasy Painting Workshop by Martin Mckenna
    6. Digital Horror Painting Workshop by Martin Mckenna
    7. Hell Beasts : How to Draw Grotesque Fantasy Creatures by Jim Pavelec
    8. Drawing and Painting Fantasy Lanscapes and Cityscapes by Rob Alexander and Martin McKenna
    9. Fantasy Art Workshop by John Howe
    10. Drawing and Painting the Undead by Keith Thompson
    11. Drawing & painting Fantasy Beasts by Kev Walker
    12. Drawing and Painting Fantasy Figures by Finlay Cowan
    13. Dreamscapes: Creating Magical Angel, Faery & Mermaid Worlds In Watercolor by Stephanie Pui-Mun Law (nothing digital but its beautifully illustrated and contains lots inspiration and lots of general drawing techniques that can be applied to digital work.)
    14. Fantasy Artists Figure Drawing Bible by Matt Dixon
    15. Draw Fantasy Figures by Gary Spencer Millidge and James Mckay
    16. Wreak Havoc: Create Fantasy Warriors and Weapons
    17. D'Artiste Digital Painting Masterclasses Volumes I and II
    18. Corel Painter: The Complete Guide to Digital Painting

     Thats about all I can think of off the top of my head...

  •  09-23-2008, 2:55 AM 135924 in reply to 134978

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    Re: Basic Pointers for a complete beginner?

    lol for off the top  of your head that was pretty impressiveBig Smile

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  •  10-07-2008, 8:35 AM 139376 in reply to 135924

    Re: Basic Pointers for a complete beginner?

    Wow, good going on those books...Christmas presents ahoy! I've added them all to my wishlist!
  •  10-09-2008, 4:03 AM 139803 in reply to 133601

    Re: Basic Pointers for a complete beginner?

    For a tablet, if you don't have the budjet for an intuos, take a bamboo, these little babies are nice, I know some of them have a nifty little texture to them so it feels like paper rather then plastic on plastic and they're very affordable.  This is my personnal recommendation for people who are starting, it's not a big commitement, and it does the job quite well, I've got both a graphire (bamboo's ancestor in a way lol) and intuos and I haven't found my self thinking intuos accually made the difference so far.
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