Ouch!!! A blow to my faith in people.

re: Ouch!!! A blow to my faith in people.

kazky — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:55:42 GMT

hmmm, i missed all of that so i went and read the thread. Ok now i think probably what happened is that you just posted at the wrong time, em.. is not vindictive (unless he has to be) and is extremely helpful. I may be wrong as i've not read any of your previous posts (from what i can remember anyway) however, we have quite alot of members, now look at how many are actually active forum members..... i couldn't even work out the percentage, it's so low, and we see so many times, people who want crits/advice/love on every one of their images, and who only post their images, in their threads, and are not willing to offer advice/crits/love to any other member. Now it's not compulsory to offer advice etc of course, it's just polite really.

It really becomes annoying, and if you've been a member as long as em.. and myself and others have, you just reach a point where you think 'screw you' to some of the people who do this, especially if they do start their post as if they are long lost friends.

There has to be give & take otherwise people get fed up, we also get people who post an image for crit & then complain if they haven't had a reply in 30 mins.

Anyway this reply is kind of in defense of em.. and by way of an explanation as to how i and possibly feel about this kind of thing, and a question, have you helped or offered advice to people here? if you have then you were probably just in the wrong place at the wrong time, if you haven't then you might want to.

re: Ouch!!! A blow to my faith in people.

JimboJimboJimbo — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:18:16 GMT

I hate to admit it but no, I haven't offered any advice to any other forum user. But this isn't due to any degree of selfishness but rather a lack of confidence.

It doesn't feel right to me to post a crit or suggestion on someones else's post when I'm not happy with my own work and feel that in reality there's very little merit to it when it comes to technique etc. Perhaps this could be seen as selfishness - I don't know? It's not that I unwilling to share knowledge or insight just that I don't feel I have any.

All-in-all since em..'s post I've been weighing up if this the right place for me or if it wouldn't be better for me to withdraw and work on my material in solitude until I'm happy with it myself. Until I've gotten myself into the right head space to share my work and have the confidence in my own abilities to feel that I have something of merit to offer in the way of advice. Again - I don't know.

This entire incident has me doubting so many things and wondering how I should proceed. The only thing I do know for sure is that I'm not going to give up.

re: Ouch!!! A blow to my faith in people.

kazky — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:58:56 GMT

ok, well all of us have felt like that, and the only way to get through it is to keep going, your confidence will grow as you practice and here is as good a place as any, you will find it harder to grow when you're doing it alone.

i would carry on regardless :-)

re: Ouch!!! A blow to my faith in people.

phoenicorn — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:39:32 GMT

pick yourself up, dust yourself down, get posting and show us your strength. god on my first post on concept art I got slated for plagerism. don't chuck in the towel coz of one individual. you are already alot stronger than you think you are. Skill will come in time if you doubt your abilities but the correct attitude is something your are born with and I belive you have the correct attitude.

you can do eet!

I have to disagree with kaz when she says that this is as good a place as any. no this is the best place trust me I have been on all the major forums and this is the nicest and gives the best crit without being too harsh. hell send me a link to your work and all post afew comments to help if you want.

just remember sometimes people have bad days and make posts they normaly wouldn't. don't let it get to you.

re: Ouch!!! A blow to my faith in people.

JimboJimboJimbo — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:31:47 GMT

Thanks Kazky, Thanks Phoenicorn

No way am I giving up on my work or giving in to self doubt. I'm going to do my best to forget em...'s comments and move on.

I've really appreciated your inputs and insights - it means a lot to me.

I'm also going to make the best effort I can to be a more active member in the forum even if this means simply posting comments of admiration until I feel more confident in my own skills.

Cheers

Jimbo

re: Ouch!!! A blow to my faith in people.

kazky — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:40:21 GMT

i was going to suggest that until you felt more comfortable, i think you'll find you soon notice little errors and things and will be able to point them out to others, not only will that help you see how others work and can get things wrong without noticing, but help you look for errors in your work.

and only the most precious would get offended by any crits you offer, crits and advice is usually what were asking for, (well not everyone, but you'll soon realise who does & doesn't want crits)